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CalProf -> Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 15:06:40 )

We've been discussing Temple Church in London, a medieval location worthy of its own thread. The Church was built in 1185 in Norman style, in a circular design, because the Jerusalem Church of the Holy Sepulchre was round. The Church was renovated by Christoper Wren in 1682. It was heavily damaged by German bombing during the war. It contains effigies of 11th and 12th century knights, which have been restored. One is William Marshall, who was called the perfect medieval knight.

I bought some Temple Church floor tiles that had been removed during the rebuilding after the war. They show a typical medieval design but are actually Victorian. Fine tiles have a year mark, like silver. These show they were made in 1866 by Minton-Hollins, the famous ceramics company. This pattern has been restored with new tiles in the current Church. I'm looking to find a print of what the Victorian tile floor looked like in the pre-war Church. You can see the burn marks on some tiles, indicating how hot the Church blaze from incendiary bombing was, to burn baked tiles.

Perhaps the DaVinci book secret was buried under these tiles...?

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saki -> RE: Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 16:13:37 )

If one of u guys will put them up for me i have some pix, any offers.




AZcowboy -> RE: Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 16:41:29 )

Saki, I would love to help. Before the picture posting process was "simplified" I was posting pots of ictures but I have given up on this new system. Hudson or CalProf should be able to do it. I want to see 'em.

CalProf, are those the tiles you purchased?

When you were at the Temple Church did you notice that the final knight was not visible?




Shannon -> RE: Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 17:15:40 )

saki,
send it to me




CalProf -> RE: Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 18:41:43 )

In Temple Church I didn't count the knight effigies, but noticed that several were shattered and repaired. I think there were four. The Church itself is quite small, and was busy with maintenance and restoration workers, with a rather bleak paved courtyard around the Church. The nice grassy areas of the Temple Bar are closer to the river.

The tiles I bought over Ebay, but checked them out in ceramic tile art history books and at the Minton-Hollins website (now just Minton). There are many "after the bombing" objects sold for collectors. A popular type are paper weights and statues made of metal from German bombs or from anti-aircraft shrapnel. Many Roman coins and other artefacts were found during excavations after the Blitz.




saki -> RE: Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 18:49:06 )

Shannon did u get them???




Shannon -> RE: Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 19:06:42 )

yep..I am workin' on it! [:D]




Shannon -> RE: Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 19:07:34 )

for:saki
I am working on the others now. [:D]

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Shannon -> RE: Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 19:09:11 )

more for:saki




Shannon -> RE: Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 19:10:18 )

saki

Did I get them all?

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CalProf -> RE: Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 19:30:16 )

Nice photos, Saki.

Saki, here's my technique for posting within messages. I try to shrink the photo to reasonable size and then post it on my photo storage website.


Doing that gives it a URL address, the link to that website and specific photo. I copy that and then insert it between these symbols:
an "img" within brackets; then the address, like "http://www. and so forth; and another "/img" within brackets. (Don't actually use those quotation marks.

Then you add that address within the "ims" into your message text. If you then try "preview" you can see how large your photo will appear.

I can't show an example here because the forum system thinks I'm trying to post my own photo! I'll e-mail you the example.

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AZcowboy -> RE: Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 20:48:35 )

Cool pix, Saki and Shannon. Did you take those on a visit?




saki -> RE: Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 21:08:08 )

I got pix of everything ,just don't have the patience to load them all up,if i ever get a break from work maybe over the holidays when it settles down ,then i will load them into the album[:)]




saki -> RE: Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 21:12:39 )

Yep got pix of everything but just to lazy after work to load them all up ,maybe after xmas in jan or feb will put them in the website album [sm=star.gif]




Hudson -> RE: Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 22:08:43 )

Sorry Saki, Havn't followed this thread . I see shannon did a bang up job.




CalProf -> RE: Temple Church in London (5 Dec. 2004 22:51:27 )

Temple Church is a London location that I revisit, just to see how it's changed. When there I know I'm standing on a piece of medieval historic land. Scholars say that mysterious ancient rites were conducted in the Church to initiate new knights! Because it's close to the Thames, the area was bombed heavily, but more is rebuilt by every new visit!

I'd love to be on archeological project in London! There is a journal called London Archeology, published by the Museum of London -- one of the best places to visit for history (in the Barbican Center by the Roman Wall). The Museum has extraordinary exhibits, such as Georgian carriages and a recreation of the London Fire. One of the best exhibits I've seen anywhere was on the Poultry Street project, the excavation of an area of the old London City, when streets were named after their sale items.

The project was in advance of a new business building planned for that real estate. Digging down, major finds were made down through Victorian, Georgian, Cromwell, Elizabethan...all the way to Roman times when there was a shopping street there near the river. And the Museum recreated the life-size Roman homes, and showed how they were discovered.

That novel by Rutherford, "London" is what archeologists find: cut down through the layers of time, and see the ages of London life back to pre-Celtic times.




eatdrinkbehappy -> RE: Temple Church in London (6 Dec. 2004 2:20:46 )

If you have a look at this web site Calprof, there are some interesting tiles by Minton. I think they have an archive section too.
They make good presents for anyone who's interested in collecting a piece of history.

http://www.tile-heaven.co.uk/mintons-01.htm




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